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Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

  • 1.  Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-19-2023 04:18 PM

    Hi all, as the title suggests, we are working with a museum that consists of several historic buildings embedded within a living neighborhood. The grounds are porous and open to the public for walking around, as well as to residents for driving, parking, tenant access, etc. 

    We are doing some creative brainstorming about wayfinding, managing indoor access, and marking the borders of the historic areas, and would love your help identifying other sites with similar conditions that we can learn from. 

    Thank you! 



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    Michelle Moon
    Principal, Satlworks Interpretive Services
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  • 2.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-19-2023 10:26 PM

    Hello Michelle!

    Once again, you and I have much in common. We are on four acres and have ten buildings, seven of them historic. We also have open borders, and people use our grounds like a park. We have struggled with all of the same questions. In a couple of weeks, we are going through a community visioning process for our grounds and to work on these exact questions. Let's keep in touch about this! 

    One of our challenges is that we have a number of densely wooded spaces and a few buildings where illicit activity sometimes takes place, and our greatest fear is fire. One of the key things we'll be working on soon is better lighting as a preventive security. We are also going to work on interpretive signage and wayfinding, but our questions there are how many signs, how much to do with them, etc. so they don't overwhelm the site but are still helpful for visitors.



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    Angie Albright
    Director
    Shiloh Museum of Ozark History
    Springdale AR
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  • 3.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-11-2023 10:42 AM

    Hello,

    Our site also has the open border issues (36-acres) and is used daily by local visitors for dog walks, etc.  We made the decision to leave the historic area open after a long restoration because it had been fenced in so long.  We have utilized placing large signs, kindly worded, to address some of the immediate issues.  Regarding the lighting issues, we were helped tremendously by our local public utility and their lighting specialists.  



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    Kathleen Carlucci
    Museum Director
    Thomas Edison Center at Menlo Park
    Edison NJ
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  • 4.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-20-2023 09:32 AM
    Hi Michelle -

    Colonial Williamsburg comes immediately to mind. They're perhaps more self-contained than you're thinking of, but some of the "porous and open to the public" is definitely applicable.

    Judy

    Judy Fort Brenneman
    Greenfire Creative, LLC

    Electric Lemons: Interpretation and the Art of Writing
    Skysinger Press



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  • 5.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-20-2023 10:01 AM

    Check in with Historic Deerfield and Old Salem! That is exactly their situation.



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    Erin Richardson PhD
    Founder and Principal
    Frank & Glory
    Cooperstown NY
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  • 6.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-20-2023 10:10 AM

    Michelle, 

    You might also look at sites run by The Trustees in Massachusetts. When I did an evaluation project for them a few years ago there was at least one site where the lines blended between public spaces and entry-fee based areas; and many of their spaces border or include residential neighborhoods. 



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    Claudia Ocello
    President & CEO
    Museum Partners Consulting, LLC
    Maplewood NJ
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  • 7.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-05-2023 04:19 PM

    Was just about to recommend both of those museums ~ especially Historic Deerfield. 



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    Michelle Might
    Johns Hopkins University Advanced Academic Programs
    Washington DC
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  • 8.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-20-2023 10:34 AM

    The Landmarks Foundation (Montgomery AL) would be a good contact.

     

    Martha Akins

    Vizcaya Museum and Gardens

     




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  • 9.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-20-2023 12:11 PM

    Michelle - the Hale House is operated by Historic Beverly and they just did a ton of grant-funded work on the boundaries. The house and grounds are literally in the middle of a suburban residential neighborhood. I'm sure Sue would be a great resource to talk to!



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    Julie Arrison-Bishop
    Founder
    MuseumTastic
    Beverly, Mass.
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  • 10.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-21-2023 09:08 AM
    Definitely see Pullman National Historical Park in Chicago. https://www.nps.gov/pull/learn/index.htm.
    One of our newest national parks, previously a national monument. I facilitated and wrote their Long-range Interpretive Plan in 2020. Can send PDF if you like.
    Faye Goolrick, goolrick@gmail.com




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  • 11.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-21-2023 11:17 AM

    Also look at the Blackstone River Valley National Historical Park in RI & MA. It's a whole series of loosely connected historic assets--built and natural--interwoven (no textile pun intended!) with the towns in the area: https://www.nps.gov/blrv/index.htm



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    Derick Dreher
    Rosenbach Museum & Library
    Philadelphia PA
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  • 12.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-22-2023 09:55 AM

    Definitely check out Weeksville Heritage Center in the heart of Brooklyn, NY! 



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    Shari Berman
    Partner
    Evidence Design
    Brooklyn NY
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  • 13.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-29-2023 04:03 PM

    Hi Michelle,

    Sounds like a very interesting challenge.  We have several examples or "porous" history experiences in living neighborhoods that we have brought together and enhance thru web or app based augmented reality. I put links to a few examples below.  Happy to chat if you would like more info or to want to talk thru pros and cons.

    The AMP: AIDS Memorial Pathway

    Monumental Conversations

    Past Present Future



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    Julia Beabout
    Creative Director, Novaby AR Studio
    Novaby
    julia.beabout@novaby.com
    (206) 595-7213
    www.novaby.com
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  • 14.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 06-30-2023 10:55 AM

    Hi Michelle,

    In addition to the options below, check out websites as first step at, Indianapolis Museum of Art, Huntington Gardens & Museum, Conner Prairie, Newport Mansions, Plimoth Plantation, Getty Villa (Malibu), Lyndhurst, Greystone Mansion, Hillwood Museum & Gardens, California Academy of Science, Cheekwood, and Crystal Bridges, all of which I have been to, seen, worked with, and, I believe meets your criteria. There are others of course, but these are top of mind.  I believe this matches your request above. Hope this helps.

    Best regards,

    Art



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    Art Manask
    Founder/Principal
    Art Manask Consulting
    artmanask@gmail.com
    818 358-3588
    www.artmanaskconsulting.com
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  • 15.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-03-2023 05:40 AM
    Colonial Williamsburg

    Katie Boardman
    PO Box 666
    Cooperstown, NY 13326
    607-435-4568


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  • 16.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-03-2023 12:41 PM

    Look at the Penobscot Marine Museum in Maine. Folks going to a local church and school drive through their campus, which is right on Route 1. Also Canterbury Shaker Village is on either side of a main road, but it's not heavily traveled. 

    I suggest looking at the clear consistent signage deployed by colleges that line town streets. 



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    Principal
    Roberts Consulting
    Cambridge MA
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  • 17.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-03-2023 01:34 PM

    And Hancock Shaker Village in Pittsfield, MA has the same arrangement of the site resting on both sides of a road.   There is some post and rail fencing around some of the site, but not all.

     

     

    Kathryn (Katie) Boardman

    Adjunct Assistant Professor

    Cooperstown Graduate Program in Museum Studies

    PO Box 666

    Cooperstown, NY 13326

    Cell 607-435-4568

    She,Her, Hers

     

     

     




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  • 18.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-03-2023 02:40 PM
    Thank you all for these very helpful suggestions! We will be reviewing them all for further inspiration and analysis. 




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  • 19.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-04-2023 07:45 AM

    Old Salem Museums & Gardens
    Winston-Salem, North Carolina
    https://www.oldsalem.org/



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    Sharon F. Corey
    Collections Manager
    Georgetown County Museum
    Georgetown, South Carolina
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  • 20.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-04-2023 04:44 PM
    Michelle,
    I don't know if anyone has suggested the following three historic houses in Richmond, which are in residential areas;
    Agecroft Hall, a Tudor building moved from England to Richmond in the 1920s and re-erected in the Windsor Farms subdivision in England. Once a home, it is now a museum and not only interprets the time period of the home but, in the past, has partnered with the Virginia Holocaust Museum to tell the story of deed restrictions and covenants that prevented Jews and others from purchasing homes there.
    Wilton House Museum, a mid-18th century house, was moved from the banks of the James River to its current location in an upscale Richmond residential neighborhood by The National Society of the Colonial Dames in Virginia in the early 1930s.
    Maymont, built in the late 19th century, is on a 100-acre estate and includes a park and a nature center, but it's located within a larger public park in Richmond. It's owned by the City of Richmond and operated by the private Maymont Foundation.
    Hope these are useful suggestions.


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    Independent Curator
    Newport News, VA
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  • 21.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-05-2023 10:34 AM
    Pullman National Historical Park and the Pullman Porter Museum are located directly within the historic Pullman district neighborhood in Chicago.

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    Christine Granat, Associate Registrar (she/her)
    Peabody Essex Museum | Salem, MA 01970
    978.542.1530 office | 773.322.0084 cell



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  • 22.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-06-2023 09:33 AM

    Hi Michelle,

    Naper Settlement is in a living neighborhood in the Chicago suburbs!



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    Jacqueline Maronic
    Associate Director of Education
    Naper Settlement
    Chicago IL
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  • 23.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-07-2023 01:51 PM

    Historic Huguenot Street in New Paltz, NY may prove another useful model.



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    Lisbeth Mark
    Managing Principal
    New York NY
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  • 24.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-04-2023 08:20 AM

    Hello Michelle!
    If you are looking for a solution to tell the stories of your museums then we may have a very suitable product. We make audio guide mobile applications for museums and monuments. Some destinations we have worked with have very high footfall and porous boundaries. The mobile application also has a map to help in finding one's way around and can give you data in real time about visitors using the app when at site. Do let me know if you find this interesting and suitable. 



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    Shalini Bansal
    Co-Founder
    Museums22 by Desiwalks Tours Private Limited
    Mumbai
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  • 25.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-05-2023 09:24 AM

    Hello Michelle,

    Along with the heritage sites already identified, you ought to review multiple national historical parks and heritage corridors throughout the national park system. Browse www.nps.gov for a complete list of sites in MA, PA, NY, CA, and IL. The San Antonio (TX) missions are yet another example, with multiple churches still in use by the Roman Catholic parishes.

    regards,



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    Kevin Coffee
    Lowell National Historical Park
    Lowell, NY
    https://www.nps.gov/lowe/
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  • 26.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-05-2023 03:50 PM
    Edited by Sara Gray 07-05-2023 03:50 PM

    You could take a look at California State Parks, the first parks with museums that come to mind are Monterey State Historic Park, Sonoma State Historic Park, Old Town San Diego State Historic Park, Los Angeles State Historic Park, and Old Town Sacramento State Historic Park.  All of those consist of several historic structures with gardens or grounds open to the public as well as museum spaces open to the public.  LA State Historic Park is 32 acres of open space with historic structures and cultural heritage in Los Angeles next to China Town and sounds a lot like what you are talking about.  Old Town Sacramento State Historic Park is in the center of Sacramento, right next to the business district and fully open to the public with little to no restrictions.

    Monterey State Historic Park is part of a larger program in Monterey called The Path of History which links several sites throughout the city that are State owned, NTHP owned, City owned, and private residences.  

    Path of History Monterey | Adobes & Important Historic Buildings (seemonterey.com)

    Monterey SHP (ca.gov)

    Old Town San Diego SHP (ca.gov)

    Los Angeles SHP (ca.gov)

    Old Sacramento SHP (ca.gov)



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    Sara Gray
    Museum Curator
    California State Parks Monterey District
    Salinas CA
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  • 27.  RE: Seeking Examples: Outdoor history sites/museums with porous or open boundaries, and/or located in a living neighborhood

    Posted 07-10-2023 12:00 PM

    Minnetrista in Muncie IN has dealt with exactly what you are referencing.  It is a 40 acre campus surrounded by neighborhood on one side, a fairgrounds on the other, and bisected by a universities buildings in the middle.  There is limited fencing and the grounds are open to the public for walking around etc.  

    The biggest challenge is that most community members would say they have "been to Minnetrista" but many are referencing having parked in the parking lot and walked the grounds or attended a community gathering inside one of the buildings (think Rotary). So creating a framing "First Experience" is very hard and with that a struggle to create a cohesive visitor experience or messaging in general.

    George Buss 



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    George Buss
    VP of Visitor Experience
    Minnetrista
    Muncie IN
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