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  • 1.  Nomenclature/numbering

    Posted 08-14-2023 10:38 AM
    Greetings, Museum Forum gurus - I am working with a small, local historical society (and historic house museum) adopting PastPerfect.  We will be assigning the collection's first accession numbers.  Luckily, we have dates the objects entered the collection, but the existing numbering system does not give a clue to object category or type.

    In a previous museum, we had an existing (legacy) object ID numbering system which we used much more than accession numbers for a variety of reasons I won't go into here.  However, the object ID numbers provided clues as to what type of object you were looking for (painting, furniture, textile, etc.)  That system had been established by the museum's first curator, Henry Watson Kent (who would go on to be the first librarian at the Met and to help establish its American Wing).  He'd been trained by Melvil Dewey (at Columbia's School of Library Economy), so I'm guessing his numbering system was based on that.  It went something like this; paintings' prefix was 180.; furniture, 90.; costumes/attire 100. (as I recall).

    My question is does this sound familiar to anyone?  I've scoured the web and can find nothing referring to such a system.  Once we became familiar with it at my old shop, it was quite useful, so I'm considering recommending we use it (or similar) at the historical society for the object ID field in PastPerfect.  We would, of course, assign accession numbers and retain the "old number" in that field... Clearly, we would still use standard nomenclature and record the appropriate object name, description, dims, etc., etc.

    Any thoughts out there in the museoiverse?  Thank you!
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  • 2.  RE: Nomenclature/numbering

    Posted 08-14-2023 10:59 AM

    I am sure there are museums who do this or something like it, but I have never seen it stated as a standard system for museums.

     

    What you are describing sounds very much like a library call number system.  Based on your statement that Kent was trained by Melvil Dewey (inventor of the Dewy Decimal system) –it makes sense that Kent's institution your referred to is using a library call number system.

     

    Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but it seems like a lot of work. 

     

    Is it really what the museum you're working with really needs?  Do they need to be able to ID an object's category just by looking at its object number?

     

    Lana Newhart-Kellen

    Collections & Facilities Manager/Purdue Galleries

    Patti & Rusty Rueff School of Design, Art & Performance

    Harrison Hall/HARR C-14B

    107 MacArthur Drive

    West Lafayette IN 47906

    765-496-2816

    ljnewhar@purdue.edu

     




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  • 3.  RE: Nomenclature/numbering

    Posted 08-14-2023 11:07 AM
    Yes, you're right about Kent and his system because he and it predate the 1950s.  But I guess in a relatively small collection,  perhaps it's not necessary... objects are (or will be) largely on display...



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  • 4.  RE: Nomenclature/numbering

    Posted 08-15-2023 06:03 AM

    I agree that it sounds like a lot of work and not sure how useful it will be to you.  Accession numbers are used for tracking, giving you information about which collection etc.  not nomenclature.  A quilt looks very much like a textile, and you don't really need to add an identifying number to it.  Personally, I would recommend against it as it seems like a cumbersome system to keep up with and explain to those who come after you.



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    Kings Landing Corporation
    New Brunswick, Canada
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  • 5.  RE: Nomenclature/numbering

    Posted 08-15-2023 06:40 AM
    Thanks...I think I'm coming to the same conclusion. 



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  • 6.  RE: Nomenclature/numbering

    Posted 08-15-2023 10:43 AM

    As someone who just started working with a collection that has a categorized numbering system, please don't do this to future staff. Inevitably, there are things that fit into two categories or no categories, which at my institution has led to the creation of several miscellaneous categories (meaning that the prefix has no meaning). The standard three-part accession numbering system allows new staff to hit the ground running without having to learn how to read the numbers. I am seriously considering renumbering my current collection because of these reasons.

    Sara



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    Sara Berkovec
    Collections Manager
    National Geographic Museum
    Washington DC
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  • 7.  RE: Nomenclature/numbering

    Posted 08-15-2023 01:47 PM
    Thanks,  Sara - yes.  We had same- prefixed objects that were paintings, prints and drawings!! V



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