Carol, thank you for sharing this. The episode is wonderful and the research question is one I've been working on from a completely different direction.
I'm a product designer who built Free City Arts, a mobile-first web app for discovering free public art and cultural spaces in San Francisco through self-guided walking tours. It's a personal project, still in progress. One of the core ideas is that the free floors and public-access spaces inside institutions like SFMOMA and MoAD are genuinely underknown. Many people don't realize they can walk in without buying a ticket. The app names those spaces, describes what's in them, and puts them in sequence with other free public stops, like the Frank Stella paintings in the lobby at 222 Howard Street.
The framing of liminal spaces as connective tissue resonates with something I kept running into while building the tours. My hunch, and I'm a designer not a researcher, is that some people don't cross the lobby because they don't know the space is open to them. Surfacing it explicitly, with a description and a reason to enter, is one of the things I was trying to solve for.
I'd love to follow the research as it develops and see what the data shows - especially as I build out more tours. The de Young is next, with the Hamon Tower and sculpture garden, and I'm planning a Civic Center tour that includes the main library, which is full of public art and free programming.
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Sharon Cardinal
Student
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