Open Forum

 View Only
  • 1.  Firearms and the Supreme Court Ruling

    Posted 06-24-2022 11:28 AM
    Greetings

    So I am curious if AAM has anyone or a group looking into the ramifications of the latest Supreme Court ruling and how public spaces will be defined and museums relative to the right to bear arms in public.  Now I believe that private institutions can  have polices prohibiting firearms so this may allow museums to do so I also wondering if that hold for government museums. Just to point out that parks are a place where prohibitions have already been ruled as nonapplicable. This may make some museums' immediate grounds problematic. I think it might be good to get a group together. Thoughts?

    ------------------------------
    Wayne LaBar
    Executive Director
    Cape Fear Museum of History and Science
    Wilmington NC
    ------------------------------
    AAM Annual Meeting & MuseumExpo, Baltimore, May 16-19, 2024, click to learn more


  • 2.  RE: Firearms and the Supreme Court Ruling

    Posted 06-24-2022 04:25 PM
    Edited by Mark Walhimer 06-24-2022 04:25 PM
    Hi Wayne,
    Excellent question. 

    It is interesting that the Smithsonian (currently) can restrict guns; 
    While on Smithsonian premises NO VISITOR SHALL: Carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed on the premises.

    But the NPS allows guns;
    an individual can possess a firearm if that individual is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the firearm and if the possession of the firearm complies with the laws of the state where the park area is located.

    - Mark

    Mark Walhimer
    Museum Planning, LLC
    https://www.museumplanning.com/


    AAM Annual Meeting & MuseumExpo, Baltimore, May 16-19, 2024, click to learn more


  • 3.  RE: Firearms and the Supreme Court Ruling

    Posted 06-27-2022 11:10 AM

    Wayne - 

    For most of us, we still need to continue to look at our current legal situation - municipal, county, state, and federal. The recent SCOTUS decision was looking primarily at what restrictions can be put into place in order to prevent the individual carry of a firearm. Specifically, this affects lawful carry of a firearm in New York State. I would expect future challenges in other states. Until there are changes in the law regarding your jurisdiction, continue operations as if nothing has changed. 

    The following is not a one-size-fits-all solution but I would recommend actions to take:

    • Determine how your organization fits within the local jurisdiction - are you 501(c)3? Government? For-Profit? Each has varying rights/responsibilities.
    • Ensure your signage is correct and up-to-date - "This is City/County/State/Federal/Private Property - for a complete list of applicable laws/rules call...(with QR Code to online). I know - I hate signs also.
    • Establish common sense procedures to follow if someone is on your property with a firearm (in accordance with local laws and your own organizational policies/rules)
    • Train staff appropriately - what actions to take, who to report to, who engages the individual
    • Maintain good relations with your local police agency. Do they know you and your site/facility? You do not want to be strangers when you need them.
    One unfortunate thing which may happen at individual sites/museums/public spaces is a "Constitutional Carry Audit" or "Open Carry Audit". This is an exercise performed by (typically) individuals who are in public, lawfully carrying firearms in the open. They will often do this with a Go-Pro or some other camera setup to record this "audit" of the local jurisdiction. Their hope is to encounter local law enforcement to gauge a response, educate them in the law (as they understand it, and maybe get YouTube famous. They do not often understand that although you appear to be a "public space," you have rights and responsibilities as a property owner. 

    Good Luck!

    ------------------------------
    David Kennedy
    Curator of Collections and Exhibits
    US Marshals Museum
    Fort Smith, AR
    ------------------------------

    AAM Annual Meeting & MuseumExpo, Baltimore, May 16-19, 2024, click to learn more


  • 4.  RE: Firearms and the Supreme Court Ruling

    Posted 06-28-2022 06:31 AM
    Wayne,

    Great point of discussion. Though I am a licensed owner of guns (2), and from NY, I am a firm believer that background checks need to be strengthen along with prohibition of any weapon whether it be a knife or gun from schools, libraries, museums, religious facilities and similar. I come from a large military, police and fire service family (father and uncle killed in the line of duty) but still feel that our awareness must increase along such lines to potential threats. 

    It seems that this community may have to evaluate capabilities to enforce restrictions, and, have personnel on sight for protection, similar to school resource officer.

    Your list of risks should always include threat of violence

    Rich

    ------------------------------
    Richard Rotanz PhD
    Setauket NY
    ------------------------------

    AAM Annual Meeting & MuseumExpo, Baltimore, May 16-19, 2024, click to learn more


  • 5.  RE: Firearms and the Supreme Court Ruling

    Posted 06-28-2022 01:21 PM
    Hi Wayne,

    As others have already written, state and local firearm laws remain in place. Lowell National Historical Park (NPS) continues to prohibit firearms in all of our museum and gallery sites, and Massachusetts laws continue to be enforced as the attorney general of the Commonwealth reiterated yesterday.

    regards,

    ------------------------------
    Kevin Coffee
    Lowell National Historical Park
    Lowell, NY
    https://www.nps.gov/lowe/
    ------------------------------

    AAM Annual Meeting & MuseumExpo, Baltimore, May 16-19, 2024, click to learn more