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  • 1.  Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-16-2020 02:37 PM
    We're working on switching over some of our "push to start the video" buttons into touchless triggers.  I have seen "wave hand" sensors around town (mostly to operate ADA doors) but I can't find a solution to trigger a Raspberry Pi - essentially something low-volt with a normal open position.  This seems like something everyone in the free world would need and would be readily available, but I just don't see the right option out there.  What are you using?

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  • 2.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-17-2020 10:12 AM
    Edited by Tom Howes 12-17-2020 10:12 AM

    Hi,

    We've been successful with this product:

    https://www.worldeyecam.com/ib-25-infrared-button-slim-type-4.53-x-1.54-x-1.18-in-530-ib25-000.html

    It's a fairly straightforward replacement process from our old arcade style mechanical push-buttons. They're a little shorter, so we have to counter-bore the back side of the original cabinet insertion hole, but otherwise it's a great fit. The link above has a really detailed spec page, but here it is for a quick look. https://www.worldeyecam.com/uploads/PDF/AS_Sensor.pdf

    The product comes with the metal bezel, but it's easily removed. The page shows three types, but the only difference appears to be the bezel size.



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  • 3.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-17-2020 10:32 AM

    Hi Mike,

    The three easiest approaches I can think of are using an ultrasonic sensor, a capacitive touch sensor, or a light-based sensor. I typically use Adafruit to research sensors in these situations and they've been pretty reliable (I promise I'm not getting kickbacks for saying this), but you can also do google searches and find similar products to what Adafruit sells, sometimes for cheaper!

    Ultrasonic:
    Never used this but probably what I would go with. Cheap, effective and pi-compatible - this will detect how far away a person's hand is, so you can just program it to trigger within x centimeters of the sensor. Only setback might be aesthetics since you need to keep the two cylinders unobstructed, but if you can make a nice house for it, not so bad.
    https://www.adafruit.com/product/3942

    Similar to the above, but laser-based and easier to hide
    https://www.adafruit.com/product/3317 

    Light:
    Lots of different light sensors. Basic idea would be if a certain amount of light is blocked, the pi will know to trigger a function. Disadvantage is if this is in an area where light fluctuates, it might get triggered by the fluctuations, so you wouldn't want this by a window for example. You could control that by having a light pointed at the sensor so that it is constantly detecting a large amount of light, then when a person's hand gets in the way, it blocks that light. 
    https://www.adafruit.com/product/4162

    Cap Touch:
    A capacitive touch sensor senses electricity in the air, if the user's hand gets close enough, it will trigger it like a button. You can usually increase the sensitivity on these to allow the user's hand to be farther away, BUT it'll still probably have to be fairly close, so might want to go with one of the above options. If the sensitivity is strong enough you can hide these sensors from view. 

    This is the cheapest I've found that's pi compatible, but the sensitivity isn't that great, so a person would have to get pretty close to trigger it.
    https://www.adafruit.com/product/1374?gclid=CjwKCAiAoOz-BRBdEiwAyuvA6zSYNoXc6bsyYJTr7gOqt368h_vMpgfiK1EKM3sJH5sExfUJ9m4TThoC3l4QAvD_BwE

    Never used this, but I assume you can adjust its sensitivity. Might be overkill if you need just one button.
    https://www.adafruit.com/product/2340

    If you need directional/gesture recognition, like detecting if the user swipes their hand up/down/left/right a 3D gesture sensor is the way to go. You can just slap one of these on top of the pi and install the software, and modify their premade code. First link I've use, definitely works, and is fairly easy if you're used to using raspberry pi's, second link is probably about the same.
    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/seeed-technology-co.,-ltd/103100083/10451872
    https://www.adafruit.com/product/2325

    Let me know if you have any questions!



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  • 4.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-17-2020 10:36 AM

    At the beginning of the pandemic, we were in software development for a new exhibition planned to open in July. That date was pushed to September and we immediately started working with our software company to move to touchless interactivity. We used a Leap Motion solution that has worked well for us. The only individual who has problems activating and interacting with the motion sensors is our CEO ... you can guess the implications. Observation, however, shows that most visitors readily adapt. Hope this helps.

     



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  • 5.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-18-2020 08:29 AM

    Mike,

    Great questions - and I think we're all dealing with this type of thing right now. I agree with Ian that an ultrasonic sensor could work great, as well as a Leap. Leap can definitely get into more complex issues around how to integrate with, for instance, a digital signage player, but an Ultrasonic sensor and an Arduino or Raspberry Pi is pretty straightforward. A couple of videos that could help:

    Ultrasonic Sensor + Arduino:
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brucespero_arduino-museums-touchlesstechnology-activity-6707730644170006528-QrLh

    Leap Motion Detection
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brucespero_touchless-touchlesstechnology-gesturerecognition-activity-6702271783942328320-Yhcd



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  • 6.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-18-2020 09:27 AM

    Echoing Michael and Bruce, Leap Motion is a great choice too, but I don't think it's compatible with Raspberry Pi, so it would only be useful if you're playing the video off a pc/mac. Another thought is if you are using a non-Pi computer to play the video, you could just use an arduino with one of the mentioned sensors, that would be a lot simpler than a whole Pi.



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    Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden
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  • 7.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 12:57 PM

    Following up on Michael, Bruce, and Ian, The Leap Motion works well - we have used it with the Processing (Java-based, processing.org) toolkit; however, it definitely does not play particularly well with the Pi. A small but more powerful mini-computer like the Odyssey Blue or something similar running Linux would be a better solution. The Leap Motion would be ideal for more complex scenarios where a user might interact with on-screen buttons or other controls in a touch less manner. To trigger a video or some other relatively simple interaction sensors such as an ultrasonic distance sensor can be connected directly to a Pi. A simple program to say detect a person standing directly in front of a monitor or the close approach of a hand can easily be used to trigger the playback of a video on the Pi. 



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  • 8.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 01:18 PM
    We use Stylus pens as they work on iPads.  Pencil erasers do not work on iPads.
    Julie Harris




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  • 9.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 01:31 PM
    Ah! ... and then sanitize the styluses?

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    Slater Memorial Museum
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  • 10.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 03:16 PM
    Yes, we put them in alcohol. You can't sanitize the rubber tips though as
    they would dry out.


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  • 11.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 02:16 PM
    Check with what seems to be one of the leaders in touchless interactive tech: https://www.ideum.com

    James Bryant
    SOJOURN Science - Nature - Education
    Santa Fe, NM
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-bryant-0598a940/





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  • 12.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-18-2020 12:09 PM

    I know this doesn't directly address your question but we have dealt with this issue with our existing interactives with "pencil pushers". These are simply unsharpened pencils personalized with the Museum's name, and we hand them to visitors when they come in the door. The eraser makes a great rubber tip for pushing the buttons, & the visitor takes them with them when they leave so there is no need to sanitize. 



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  • 13.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 07:16 AM
    will the eraser "tip" also work to swipe an ipad screen?

    Vivian F. Zoë, Director
    Slater Memorial Museum
    108 Crescent Street, Norwich CT 06360
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  • 14.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 12:11 PM
    No, the “pencil pushers” don't work with iPads.

    John


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  • 15.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 07:25 AM
    Edited by Patrick Denny 12-21-2020 07:29 AM

    Mike,

    We've been developing a button replacement called the Muxxee Wave for the past nine months and are in the final testing phase before we release the product.  It's an arcade style button replacement that fits exactly into an existing Interactive and uses sensors to replace the button contact.  Here is a link to what we've been working on, https://tanata.com/muxxee.  The big challenge for us is the "built in delay" a motion sensor introduces into the mix. While we were able to get our first version working for computer input, playback devices like the Brightsign player were registering false positives.  We've figured out how to work around those limitations and are excited by our final solution.  If you would like we can send you a couple of units for evaluation.  Our goal is to have an economical replacement for the arcade push buttons and a more complex version for Ipac type solutions.  Feel free to give us a call, or drop us an email, 917-720-2424, service@tanata.com.  We've been working all year trying to solve this exact problem and think it's an important consideration moving forward-   Patrick Denny 



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    American Museum of Natural History
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  • 16.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 12-21-2020 07:27 AM
    Edited by Patrick Denny 12-21-2020 07:29 AM

    Sorry-  I think my link had an extra character-   Here it is again

    https://tanata.com/muxxee



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    American Museum of Natural History
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  • 17.  RE: Touchless "buttons"

    Posted 01-04-2021 03:21 PM
    Has anyone used or heard of Freetouch? The company I work for (Flying Fish) began representing this software solution recently in order to introduce it to a larger relevant market (museums and traveling exhibition producers). Users simply scan a QR code and can immediately begin using their smartphones as a touchpad for virtually any touchscreen. No downloads for the user are required. Here's some more info for those who are curious to try it: https://www.flyingfishexhibits.com/freetouch/

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